The location: Long Beach party house.

Q. What is it supposed to be on the show?

    A.  A party house in a rough neighborhood.

Q. Where is it supposed to be on the show?

    A. Somewhere in Long Beach. near a refinery.

Q. When did we see it on the show?

    A. In Season one, Episode 5, "The Outsider", Seth is feeling a bit neglected because Ryan is spending a lot of time with a new blue-collar friend, Donnie, whom he met working at the Crab Shack.

    When Seth accepts an invitation from Donnie to go to a kegger in Long Beach, Ryan warns Seth against going there, realizing it will be a rough crowd and that naive Seth will be out of his element. Seth goes anyway, so Ryan goes along to keep him safe.

    Sure enough, by the time Ryan gets Seth to leave the party, a bunch of guys have destroyed his dad's Range Rover.

    ( But at least no one got hurt, which is more than you could say for Holly's party in Newport. )

Q. What is it actually in real life?

    A.  A residential house next to a refinery (and the lot next to it) - but not in Long Beach.

Q. Where can I find it in real life?

    A. The irony here is interesting... Quite a few of the scenes supposedly set in Newport were actually shot in Long Beach (such as the Mermaid Inn and The Valley beach).

    But when they finally say that a location is in Long Beach, it turns out to be... somewhere else.

    Where?  It's actually on the southwest side of Wilmington, in a blue-collar residential neighborhood on the Wilmington/San Pedro border.

    The house is located at the west end of a short dead-end street: the 1400 block of F Street ; it's the last house on the south side of F Street. The cars were parked in a gated empty lot on the right (west) side of the house, which is actually part of the refinery property, a gated strip of land that runs between the residential neighborhood and the refinery.

    The street is hidden away behind (west of) the Harbor (110) Freeway, between Figueroa Place (on the east) and the refinery (on the west). That's just north of the L.A. harbor docks (and just south of Harbor College).

    (Side note: The same house was used as a filming location way back in 1985, in the movie "To Live & Die In L.A.". In that movie, it was the house of character 'Steve Jones', and was the scene of a fight where Jones is beaten up (and maybe killed) by Willem Dafoe's villain. )

    [ Warning: Remember that this is a private home. Do not trespass on their property, knock on their door, or do anything else to disturb the residents. ]

    Here is a map link.

    And here is an aerial photo.

    [ Warning: Wilmington has a reputation as gang territory. I don't suggest a visit, but if you go anyway, exercise caution. ]

    I shot the photo below in 2007.

Q. How the heck did you figure out where it was?

    A. I didn't. This one fooled me for a long time. The most notable thing in the scene are the four oil tanks topped by a catwalk. Since they had said it was in Long Beach, I had originally concentrated my search in Long Beach (where there are a lot of oil tanks), but I was unable to spot it.

    In 2007, a fan, Chas Demster, encouraged me to do a new page about the filming locations of the 1985 movie, "To Live & Die In L.A.", and had sent me several locations from the film that he had found. Much of the movie was shot in the harbor area of Wilmington and San Pedro. While I was tracking down the remaining locations for that movie, I spotted the same four oil tanks in a key scene, and Chas was able to pinpoint the area. Thanks, Chas!

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